tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5076721494971074587.post4124822583472608486..comments2023-10-07T08:32:28.699-07:00Comments on The Michigan Secular Student Alliance: Other Bad WUWT CommentaryUMich SSA Officershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12361027639330547862noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5076721494971074587.post-17617699523280041522015-06-14T12:17:17.204-07:002015-06-14T12:17:17.204-07:00Sure, that's not a problem—I'll have to co...Sure, that's not a problem—I'll have to comment it and make it a bit more user-friendly (I know what's going on at the moment, but that's because I wrote it of course), but I can try to do that today. Is there a way you'd prefer it shared? I can send a file via email (I can do both a text and .R file), or I can simply share the code here in a new blog post (although wrapping may make it quite unreadable if that happens).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02320395147911342848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5076721494971074587.post-40897070164971032362015-06-14T10:26:09.973-07:002015-06-14T10:26:09.973-07:00Would you be able to share the code you used to do...Would you be able to share the code you used to do these tests?Brandon Shollenbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10456232054745393048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5076721494971074587.post-10004799989638578082015-06-12T15:17:40.173-07:002015-06-12T15:17:40.173-07:00And one last point. If you are afraid that my res...And one last point. If you are afraid that my result depends on the linearly increasing number of buoys, I have to ask: do you not realize that this is essentially what has been happening in real life?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02320395147911342848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5076721494971074587.post-68071212536183761962015-06-12T15:15:01.946-07:002015-06-12T15:15:01.946-07:00Let me put it another way: the authors assert that...Let me put it another way: the authors assert that what they did has no effect compared to if they had subtract the ship data. It is something that they say is inherent in the type of calculation that it is. If this is true, then it should be the same case as well for randomly generated data. And in fact that is exactly how one tests these types of things, you generate random data and then apply the same tests on it.<br /><br />This is what I have done. That their method indeed shows what they assert it does, no matter what underlying temperature series you start with (you can double check this yourself), means that their method is not in fact dependent on the series. So you say I have to use it on the real dataset: actually no, I don't have to do that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02320395147911342848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5076721494971074587.post-73382836263065260902015-06-12T15:08:24.914-07:002015-06-12T15:08:24.914-07:00This is a strange complaint. The "fabricated...This is a strange complaint. The "fabricated" dataset is generated such that it has a very similar underlying structure to the real dataset. Just like the real dataset, the pseudo series varies by a trend component and by random fluctuations that have an underlying auto correlative structure.<br /><br />If I kept generating data for long enough, I would create - completely randomly - a dataset that also shares a residual series almost identical to the real series. And what you are suggesting is that what I illustrated will give this answer every time I generate something, until I accidentally generate the dataset that is the same as the real one. Or perhaps the more "right" the random modifiers are, the more "right" the actual effect would be? Why? And what in the world the "right" effect be if not this?<br /><br />My questions are rhetorical of course, as I don't expect you to go through whatever mathematics you think you would need to to show I am wrong. But if it pleases you, the authors do in fact state that the choice of adding or subtracting does not affect the underlying trends. It is simple algebra.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02320395147911342848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5076721494971074587.post-27159017466973303282015-06-12T11:53:36.482-07:002015-06-12T11:53:36.482-07:00Not valid. You need to use the real dataset not a...Not valid. You need to use the real dataset not a fabricated data set with a linearly increasing number of buoys. FAILDaveScothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03796727784739909570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5076721494971074587.post-67246171425593130462015-06-09T02:41:12.465-07:002015-06-09T02:41:12.465-07:00Good clear explaination for public.
Thankyou.Good clear explaination for public.<br />Thankyou.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01869926211809872027noreply@blogger.com